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patrikc
Get lost back to Vienna!
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Fairfox
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Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted June 10, 2021
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havent bought a game in ageeeeeeeeeees. i mean... i havent been on here at all
im not boycottin' but regardless teh end result is teh same, right
when peggle arrives, then—then—we talk
im not boycottin' but regardless teh end result is teh same, right
when peggle arrives, then—then—we talk
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_Auster_
Sheeps or wolves?
Registered: Nov 2017
From Brazil
Posted June 10, 2021
If this sale was 8 months ago, I'd be nearing 200 BRL of purchases (around 100 USD by Valve's, and probably GOG's, fair pricing policy). Now I'm on the fence about 50 BRL (~25 USD) worth of products, where 1 I fear that might get delisted (Aquaria, since the main dev died and it didn't have a sale in the past year or so), 1 I'm really interested in, and 1 that I'll probably drop from buying.
Post edited June 10, 2021 by _Auster_
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tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
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B1tF1ghter
Execute order $rep_string
Registered: Jun 2015
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Posted June 10, 2021
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Last thing I bought here was Deus Ex: HR after it's release...
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If it wouldn't be for the fact that I am quite displeased with GOG's actions and attitude I would have probably bit the bullet and bought at least Sleeping Dogs right after seeing it even tho I already own it on Steam...
Tbh, I have more games on Steam than here, it's undeniable fact, and it's a given due to verious legit reasons (betas might be one).
Despite that fact I used to make an effort to duplicate my library here when things got released here.
Examples being:
Merto 2033 & LL redux,
Crysis 1 (owned on Origin),
All Hitman games (I am still sassy about the lack of Sniper Challange),
Bioshock games.
But after I started boycotting (which I did start long before this thread showed up) I basically indefinitely postponed my plans of duplicating my Steam library here for the sole sake of having related titles DRM-free.
So, my plans to duplicate for example:
whole Dishonored series,
Prey with all DLC,
whole Evil Within series,
among others,
will wait, and may never happen if GOG does not change their attitude and the path they are currently taking.
I deeply care about DRM-free, to the point of spending here money in the past to duplicate things JUST for the sake of having those DRM-free even when in not-so-great RL financial situation.
But I want to avoid personal self disgust of realisation of spending money on a platform whom actions I heavily disapprove of, so I will therefore postpne my purchase plans indefinitely.
Oh well, I guess the "what if" list of "planned canceled" purchases will grow even larger for me with time.
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nightcraw1er.488
DRM Free is dead.
Registered: Apr 2012
From United Kingdom
Posted June 10, 2021
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Last thing I bought here was Deus Ex: HR after it's release...
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If it wouldn't be for the fact that I am quite displeased with GOG's actions and attitude I would have probably bit the bullet and bought at least Sleeping Dogs right after seeing it even tho I already own it on Steam...
Tbh, I have more games on Steam than here, it's undeniable fact, and it's a given due to verious legit reasons (betas might be one).
Despite that fact I used to make an effort to duplicate my library here when things got released here.
Examples being:
Merto 2033 & LL redux,
Crysis 1 (owned on Origin),
All Hitman games (I am still sassy about the lack of Sniper Challange),
Bioshock games.
But after I started boycotting (which I did start long before this thread showed up) I basically indefinitely postponed my plans of duplicating my Steam library here for the sole sake of having related titles DRM-free.
So, my plans to duplicate for example:
whole Dishonored series,
Prey with all DLC,
whole Evil Within series,
among others,
will wait, and may never happen if GOG does not change their attitude and the path they are currently taking.
I deeply care about DRM-free, to the point of spending here money in the past to duplicate things JUST for the sake of having those DRM-free even when in not-so-great RL financial situation.
But I want to avoid personal self disgust of realisation of spending money on a platform whom actions I heavily disapprove of, so I will therefore postpne my purchase plans indefinitely.
Oh well, I guess the "what if" list of "planned canceled" purchases will grow even larger for me with time.
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Time4Tea
Free speech and honey!
Registered: Jan 2015
From United States
Posted June 12, 2021
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It's a similar situation to a grocery store that started out selling only vegetarian products. Then, a few years down the line, they decide to allow a handful of products that contain meat. "But it's only a small handful of meat products, surely that is ok isn't it?". No, most likely not to the many customers who were patronizing that store because it was 100% vegetarian. They would be perfectly justified in taking their business elsewhere.
I do not care about economics, that is not what this is about. It is about ethics and I don't believe that ethics should be for sale.
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Time4Tea
Free speech and honey!
Registered: Jan 2015
From United States
Posted June 12, 2021
Besides, let's not forget an important practical issue that has been mentioned several times: GOG allowing any DRMed games on it's store at all immediately weakens the DRM-free movement, since then developers will know they can access GOG's customer base with DRMed games and there is less incentive to release DRM-free. That incentive is lost with the very first DRMed game to appear on GOG.com.
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patrikc
Get lost back to Vienna!
Registered: Dec 2013
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Posted June 12, 2021
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted June 12, 2021
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It's a similar situation to a grocery store that started out selling only vegetarian products. Then, a few years down the line, they decide to allow a handful of products that contain meat. "But it's only a small handful of meat products, surely that is ok isn't it?". No, most likely not to the many customers who were patronizing that store because it was 100% vegetarian. They would be perfectly justified in taking their business elsewhere.
I do not care about economics, that is not what this is about. It is about ethics and I don't believe that ethics should be for sale.
* The DRM-encumbered games must be extremely rare on the site, and not somebody casually browsing is particularly likely to encounter.
* The store must not encourage or provide DRM; in fact, it's preferred if the store (and/or its community) discourages it.
* There must not be situations where buying a bundle with DRM-free games requires getting DRM-encumbered games along with it.
* And, of course, any DRM encumbered game is not a game that I will get.
In other words, I'm willing to buy from a place like itch.io, but not from a place like Humble Bundle (though I would have made an exception for Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls if it hadn't been released on GOG, but probably only for that game), and definitely not from a place like steam (where I won't buy the game even if it's actually DRM-free, because steam gets a cut and that company actively provides and encourages DRM).
My current situation is this:
* itch.io is currently my preferred place to get games, if they're available there and not inferior to the GOG version.
* I do still buy from GOG for games I want that aren't on itch.io (in other words, I'm not part of the boycott)
* Haven't bought anything (digital) from anywhere else, excluding some old Humble Bundle purchases back when they were still DRM-free.
* Note that, given two versions that are identical except that one provides a Steam key in addition to both inlcluding the DRM-free version, I consider the one without the key to be the superior version of the game. (In other words, the Steam key has negative value for me.)
(So far, not counting games in the two big bundles, the only games available on GOG that I've bought on itch.io are Alwa's Awakening and Alwa's Legacy.)
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borisburke
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Registered: Jun 2018
From United Kingdom
Posted June 12, 2021
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I recently installed this firewall. I was amazed to find out how many windows processes were secretly chatting to remote servers. And I was also shocked to find that so called DRM-Free games purchased here were also connecting to unknown sites for unknown reasons. I suggest you try it.
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B1tF1ghter
Execute order $rep_string
Registered: Jun 2015
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Posted June 12, 2021
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Playism was a great thing, tho it had a limited scope of catalouge (due to limited specialized scope of the platform itself) but it's unfortunatelly dead right now :/
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Windows-wise:
enjoy your journey (as this seems new to you? The packet tracing/sniffing/inspection/layer-7-activity that is), you may discover some interesting/disturbing things on your way.
Software-wise you can go much further than that, but you don't allow PMs on GOG and I don't exactly want to off-top hard so I won't recommend any here.
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§pec†re
Reeeeeeeeeee!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted June 12, 2021
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In addition to everything else it looks like PR and community staff have been are following in Konrads footsteps*.
Did anyone get fired for the Devotion nonsense?
* https://archive.vn/TftQH
https://archive.vn/OZr2A
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Truth007
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Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted June 12, 2021
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I recently installed this firewall. I was amazed to find out how many windows processes were secretly chatting to remote servers. And I was also shocked to find that so called DRM-Free games purchased here were also connecting to unknown sites for unknown reasons. I suggest you try it.