I was asking if there was any chance of Astroneer making its way to GOG & a steamite left the following...


"Why? It's not an old game. It's also on Steam and most likely won't have any DRM, if that's what cd project has drilled into your mind to be concerned about, just like 99% of indie games."

There's just no hope for some folks.

*shudder*

Well there are games on steam that can be run without the client so the not having DRM can be seen as valid (yeah I know there will be people seeing this differently), but if those people seriously think gog is only for old games they have missed quite a lot in the last years o.O

Few & far between though, plus you do have to still have the client to DL the games & any sort of registering in the first launch or similar for those that require it. There's no DL via site etc.




Aaaaaaaaaaand I'm fairly sure they're just trolling now.

"No it isn't. Educate yourself and don't listen to cd project's misinformation designed to smear their competitors and promote themselves."

Yep, but apparently there are a lot of people that don't regard that as DRM, even here (which doesn't make any sense from my point of view, as the client directly controls and limits the distribution of the software).

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

A Steam user doesn't consider the Steam client itself as DRM? Nonsense, I don't believe it.

Well, GOG also controls distribution of the software, even the free games. Installation on the other hand is not controlled on GOG.

I personally only count execution control as DRM, but I am weird like that.

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Weirdo.

Well tbh nothing new, many Steam users have no idea what DRM is (or what form it has) and those who still think GOG is only for old games, maybe they should visit more. Ironically I see more modern games than old ones these past few months on GOG.


Also, technically speaking the Steam client per se is not DRM, I consider it more as Valve's authentication and delivery method for your purchased games. With that said and done Valve does offer a DRM method true, but it's up to the devs if they want to implement it or not, it's completely optional - this is shown in some games on Steam which are DRM-Free.


So in the end is Steam DRM? I think the answer is 'it depends'.

Is GOG only for old games? Clearly Not.

Because you need an account? That's the general disadvantage of digital goods. Though, an account is required to do a purchase in the first place. Apart from that, once something is bought, there is nothing else GoG forces me to do.

PC games require an OS to work.. ... DRM!

Ended up reporting their last post (& amazingly, it actually got removed).

They were insinuating that the only reason I wanted it on GOG was to pirate it or similar.

F.Gump was right.
Stupid is as stupid does. ;)

That people still think GOG is mostly for old games is not restricted to Steam users, many posters on this forum still talk about Good Old Games as well, and I think it's partially the fault of GOG's marketing itself. Apart from proclaiming that they're also selling new games now, they did nothing to counter their image as a seller for mostly old games. They just said GOG doesn't mean "Good Old Games" anymore, but never gave it a new meaning.

You still need to download the game before you can play it. Granted, GOG give you more options on how to do that, and Steam's method for downloading and installing is controlled and could be regarded as DRM. But if the installed game can be moved to an offline computer afterwards and will still run fine, the game itself is DRM-free.

Claiming that 99% of indie games on Steam don't use Steamworks is bullshit though.

That's like his opinion, man...

Anyway, you should have said "CEG is DRM", not that "Steam is DRM". It might be that Steam user was merely playing semantics game with you because you didn't accurately name the DRM-component of the Steam service.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(software)#Software_delivery_and_maintenance]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(software)#Software_delivery_and_maintenance[/url]

http://www.geek.com/games/valve-adds-ceg-to-steamworks-removing-need-for-games-drm-724892/

In general, it is ok to ask developers to publish their games also on GOG... but if they say no, just accept it (and vote with your wallet if you want). Don't start harassing and arguing with them where they should publish their game.

Never heard of this "Astroneer" game so no idea if I'd be interested in it anyway... :)