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if square enix is selling the deus-ex, tomb raider and legacy of kain IPs like I heard that means that they will not longer get a cut of the sales of those games, or does that just means they will just not get a cut from new games with those IPs?
does anyone know when will the IPs be separated from square (or have they been already)?
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kenny4816: if square enix is selling the deus-ex, tomb raider and legacy of kain IPs like I heard that means that they will not longer get a cut of the sales of those games, or does that just means they will just not get a cut from new games with those IPs?
does anyone know when will the IPs be separated from square (or have they been already)?
The deal is due to be "signed, sealed and delivered" around September 2022 if I recall correctly.
Until then all revenue generated from sales of games using the mentioned intellectual properties will still go to Square Enix.
Post edited May 03, 2022 by Swedrami
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kenny4816: if square enix is selling the deus-ex, tomb raider and legacy of kain IPs like I heard that means that they will not longer get a cut of the sales of those games, or does that just means they will just not get a cut from new games with those IPs?
does anyone know when will the IPs be separated from square (or have they been already)?
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Swedrami: The deal is due to be "signed, sealed and delivered" around September 2022 if I recall correctly.
Until then all revenue generated from sales of games using the mentioned intellectual properties will still go to Square Enix.
thanks for the info, I just hope that if the new IP owner decides to remove the games from GOG we will at least get notice of it before it is removed.
I don't think they'll be removed.
There might be a very brief period where the games in question get delisted in order to change the publisher from "Square Enix" to "THQ Nordic GmbH"(?) but an all-out and complete removal is VERY unlikely.
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Swedrami: I don't think they'll be removed.
There might be a very brief period where the games in question get delisted in order to change the publisher from "Square Enix" to "THQ Nordic GmbH"(?) but an all-out and complete removal is VERY unlikely.
i hope so, and also hope they bring future games to this platform and not cut em off...
Haven't heard of this before, but if it's true, then hopefully that'll give us a new Deus Ex game.
Apparently Square Enix is going all out with NFT's, which is why they are selling the IP's off from Yong Yea

At least that's the impression i get, watching the video right now.

edit: Alright watched it. Basically more or less as mentioned above. Square Enix apparently doesn't know how to handle western IP's very well and after shoving in micro transactions, live service elements and other crap they weren't expecting to be making much from older games/IP's so are just getting rid of them rather than doing a good job on them.

So let's hope for the best.
Post edited May 03, 2022 by rtcvb32
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rtcvb32: So let's hope for the best.
Just need them to sell off Life Is Strange, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest & Mana Series now.

Edit: and Disney to remove Kingdom Hearts from them.

I don't know who too, and I know its never going to happen.
Post edited May 03, 2022 by RoboPond
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rtcvb32: Square Enix apparently doesn't know how to handle western IP's very well and after shoving in micro transactions, live service elements and other crap they weren't expecting to be making much from older games/IP's so are just getting rid of them rather than doing a good job on them.
Tomb Raider wasn't bad, except for all the shit side quests, shit achievements and Lara vs Armies of undead who had their brains removed on their initial death.
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rtcvb32: Square Enix apparently doesn't know how to handle western IP's very well and after shoving in micro transactions, live service elements and other crap they weren't expecting to be making much from older games/IP's so are just getting rid of them rather than doing a good job on them.
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DetouR6734: Tomb Raider wasn't bad, except for all the shit side quests, shit achievements and Lara vs Armies of undead who had their brains removed on their initial death.
I disagree. Tomb Raider wasnt bad and the same critique of armies of the dead can be applied to Uncharted which did the same.

A big issue is just stupid executives imo. Tomb Raider reboot did well, half of their lifetime sales coming from the reboot trilogy.

https://www.ign.com/articles/tomb-raider-sales-1996

Crystal Dynamics isnt a bad company and even though Avengers flopped, Guardians of the Galaxy received good critical reception and was recommended as a hidden gem.

Its just the executives at Square are just complete morons who criticize their western IPs as "not meeting expectations" in terms of game sales. Tomb Raider sold 4.12 million but Matsuda stated this was a "weak start." We dont know numbers for guardians.

In terms of profit-sharing, it depends on the contract but probably will mean that Square wont be get a cut of the sales for those IPs anymore. Not a huge deal given that most game sales die off after the first two weeks although these IPs are classic so could always see a resurgence.
Post edited May 03, 2022 by Tokyo_Bunny_8990
Square Enix Sells Tomb Raider, Deus Ex Studios And IP Rights To Embracer Group - Gamespot

In a press statement, Square Enix said that the deal "enables the launch of new businesses by moving forward with investments in fields including blockchain, AI, and the cloud."

I'm a little concerned about the future of Final Fantasy VII Remake given the above. Hopefully this sale will see the missing Tomb Raider games come over to GOG at least.
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DetouR6734: Tomb Raider wasn't bad, except for all the shit side quests, shit achievements and Lara vs Armies of undead who had their brains removed on their initial death.
The original tomb raider was a beloved series. Course those ran on the PS1.

The remake/reboot had the unstoppable shaky cam (which eventually got me so motion sick i had to quit when retrying it a few months ago).
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DetouR6734: Tomb Raider wasn't bad, except for all the shit side quests, shit achievements and Lara vs Armies of undead who had their brains removed on their initial death.
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rtcvb32: The original tomb raider was a beloved series. Course those ran on the PS1.

The remake/reboot had the unstoppable shaky cam (which eventually got me so motion sick i had to quit when retrying it a few months ago).
The original was great, the 2013 one was pretty good, but the side quests were purely a time waste for achievements, and i disliked the Lara vs 50+ undead Samurai at that bridge, same with Rise of the Tomb Raider, mowing through those undead knights... it's like.. purely action orientated with no oh shit moment whatsoever.

Then in Rise you had the cans and bottles like the undead had ventured off to the local Kwik-E-Mart and decided to litter the place...



Snall gripes, but it's what i hate in the current generation of gaming, as all it is, is a fookin copy & paste of the same idea, "hey lets not put something interesting in the game, lets just copy that shit idea because everyone seemed to love wasting hours of a day doing pointless shit and calling it "fun""
Curiously enough, despite completion of the deal back in August the Thieves, Tomb Raiders, Deus Ex', Legacy of Kains and other as of yet still unknown properties (Dungeon Siege, Gex, Supreme Commander?) are still published by Square Enix.
Maybe just for the remainder of the current (fiscal) year and ownership will properly switch over to Embracer/THQ Nordic in 2023.
Fingers crossed TR Rise and Shadow show up in the not too far future.