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Blarg: To be fair, they have no choice if they want to play certain games. It's far from unlikely that many people who "choose" Steam are actually just choosing a game and take being forced to use Steam as a price they are willing to pay rather than miss out on Steam. That's a long way from an endorsement for Steam and "choosing" to use it.
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Aliasalpha: Like choosing to eat at mcdonalds isn't technically an endorsement for food poisoning...

Only if it's the only options and it's that or die of starvation.
... I'm not sure which I would pick.. >.>
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anoffday: Who am I to say what is productive and what's not? Um well, I guess someone who realizes that this forum is suppose to relate to gog.com and not steam. Your complaints may or may not go unnoticed at the steam forums, but they will go unnoticed for sure here. For someone who has bought 60 some games from steam, I just find it a little ridiculous that you are never going to use steam again because one game didn't work. Steam isn't flawless. Gog.com isn't flawless either. If you bought the game and it doesn't work, then you have a right to be angry, but why here? Maybe I've mistaken you for some of the idiots here who call steam crapware and say other idiotic fanboy remarks, but my main point was basically that too many people here use this forum as a way to bash steam, and it's getting really old, really quick.

Well at least you noticed, so perhaps next time someone complains about Steam on one of those threads you hate so much, you wont' be so quick to shout 'That's just mindless bashing' or 'You're lying because i bet you never bought that game' and you'll actually take a couple of minutes to consider if maybe whoever is complaining about Steam has a valid point to do so. On my book that would be a good 'productive' thing, because 'automatically' dismissing valid points on the general principle that 'there's alot of bashing going on and it's getting old' it's worst than 'automatically' bashing Steam. (I used 'your' word there, michelleung. I hope that's ok.)
GOG is also the home of DRM free games, and this problem was/is caused by the use of devs/pubs own DRM on top of Steam's DRM, or at least that's what i understand caused/causes the problem, and that's why i've thrown everybody in on the 'responsability' mix. For that alone, raising this issue here on GOG, on the General Discussion board, seems pretty much 'fair game' if you ask me.
Regardless, this thread does have merit because it relates to a legitimate complaint, questionable behaviour from Steam, and it does show (yet again) how paying customers can be screwed over by nonsense DRM (the 'extra' one).
As for most threads regarding Steam here, i do stay away from them because most of them don't interest me, but that's just me. Others may see it differently, who am i to say ?
Also, i never said i'm not going to use Steam again/buy from Steam again. I said that right now i'm not looking forward to buying games from them. Big difference. Like i said, maybe things will change...
I have no major problems with Steam, but i'm getting tired of the game selling industry as a whole 'chipping' away at gamers/consumers rights in any way they see fit. In this case it's Steam and it affects me directly, but believe me, this kind of thing pisses me off to no end regardless of whoever pulls this kind of lame stunts, namely keeping a game up for sale that they were fully aware no one would manage to play (and 'crappy' is an extremely mild 'legal' world to describe this), and failing to provide customers with actual answers for a broken game that they still didn't fix.
So, no. No 'automatic' bashing here guys. Just plain facts.
Anyway, just like people are free to make whatever posts/threads they want, you and everybody else is also free to voice an opinion about those posts/threads. I just think that in this case you probably could have found a nicer way to voice yours, that's all.
Post edited April 17, 2009 by Namur
You guys what are you trying to prove? If you love Steam, use it. If you don't, don't use it. Here is not Steam forum or something. Please, calm down and don't make a fun of somebody who doesn't know.
This is a legitimate thread discussing a legitimate news story about Steam breaking a game and then continuing to make money off the faulty product for two months, before taking it down only after the press got word of it.
It doesn't matter if you like Steam or not or who's to blame for the game breaking in the first place. Knowingly selling a faulty product for two months is unacceptable.
Then fight with yourselves, it is funny to watch from here.
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KingofGnG: You call "stupid" some stranger only because he "dared" to criticize the DRM/crapware that is Steam. If you are not a fanboy, you should really consider becoming one of them. You will have a bright future then, you have skills and attitude, ah!....
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michaelleung: You don't even know what Steam is about! You start saying how much Steam sucks, without knowing the full idea! Steam isn't bad and a lot of people here use it, but it's no crapware! Or else nobody would use it, would they?

You are a freaking jerk, are you? Have you slept in the same bed as me, lately? How the heck you can "judge" what I use on my damn machines? And above all, if you consider yourself obliged to call me stupid because I've expressed an opinion on the crappy, crappy, crappy Steam-DRM-closed-system, I would consider myself obliged to call your mom a big-breast MILF.
Why? Well, because you don't even know anything about MILFs, so I would consider myself obliged to teach something about your mommy you should now....
So c'mon, amuse me a little more....
Are you done yet? What's with the MILF shit?
Post edited April 17, 2009 by michaelleung
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michaelleung: Are you done yet? What's with the MILF shit?

I think he said your mom is a milf. Which is quite funny by the way.
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michaelleung: Are you done yet? What's with the MILF shit?

Ha, KingofGnG is bating you dude. Just neg it. Its times like this I wish we had admins, or a device able to stab people in the eyes over the internet. :)
I'm sorry for my stupidity, but what does milf actually mean?
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klaymen: I'm sorry for my stupidity, but what does milf actually mean?

Mother I'd Like to Fuck.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_I'd_like_to_fuck_(MILF]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_I'd_like_to_fuck_(MILF[/url])
presumably nsfw but thats kind of assumed with the word "fuck" being part of the url
Post edited April 17, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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michaelleung: Are you done yet? What's with the MILF shit?
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Romulus: Ha, KingofGnG is bating you dude. Just neg it. Its times like this I wish we had admins, or a device able to stab people in the eyes over the internet. :)

i think its a good thing that this forum is so devoid of trolling and the like that when it actually happens, everyone is confused :)
oh, and MILFS FTW!!!
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anoffday: Who am I to say what is productive and what's not? Um well, I guess someone who realizes that this forum is suppose to relate to gog.com and not steam. Your complaints may or may not go unnoticed at the steam forums, but they will go unnoticed for sure here.
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DarrkPhoenix: Unnoticed by who? Steam employees? Yes. People who may be considering whether or not to buy a game from Steam? They may very well take notice. The thing about sizable companies (such as Steam) is that they often have difficulty taking a hint unless it's applied with a sledgehammer directly to their bottom line. In light of this, complaining loudly and in as many places as possible can actually be quite productive in getting a company to recognize and fix a problem.
And that's to say nothing of complaining relieving stress for some people, so that in itself can make it worthwhile for some.
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anoffday: my main point was basically that too many people here use this forum as a way to bash steam, and it's getting really old, really quick.

One of the nice things about an internet forum is the ability to choose which threads to read and not read. If you dislike hearing people complain about Steam I can think of a very simple solution to that problem. ;)

That is unless every other thread is about steam. And yes it is getting that bad.
The OP may be a legit topic, but this thread still brings out all the steam haters who love giving their two cents.
Post edited April 17, 2009 by anoffday
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michaelleung: Are you done yet? What's with the MILF shit?
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Romulus: Ha, KingofGnG is bating you dude. Just neg it. Its times like this I wish we had admins, or a device able to stab people in the eyes over the internet. :)

That's what I'm working on, with funds from the US Army... shh.