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Posted July 12, 2018
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timppu: I trust GOG is unable to break into my home in order to alter all the GOG installers on my hard drive, to add DRM into them or make them online-only. That's why I've specifically bought double locks on my front door, to stop GOG from entering my home physically (unless I invite them, of course).
I'm pretty sure they're all vampires. Which means the locks are redundant.
Posted July 12, 2018
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Minuteworld: https://i.imgur.com/4sa1Ln6.jpg
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GR00T: Thanks for that. If real, it's the first time I've ever seen it. Still, as I noted before if the company is in dire straits and going under, I highly doubt if they'd be putting any time and effort into unshackling their games. It's probably the last thing they'd concentrate on. Also, what AB2012 said.
If they had something ready to go they would have done so when they dropped 9x and 2000 support and when they drop support for XP next year. They don't so they won't and if they did there's nothing they could do about the 3rd party DRM unless they had unprotected executables for all those games which they don't.
Posted July 12, 2018
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Minuteworld: https://i.imgur.com/4sa1Ln6.jpg
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timppu: That is not Gaben.

Plus, talk is cheap. No one is ever going to sue Valve over that statement by an unknown "tech person", especially if Valve is out of business.

There are many logical reasons why that statement is most probably false, and they've been covered countless of times before. There are both technical and legal hurdles there.
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nightcraw1er.488: With their move into online only games like Gwent and absolver, do you trust gog
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timppu: I trust GOG is unable to break into my home in order to alter all the GOG installers on my hard drive, to add DRM into them or make them online-only. That's why I've specifically bought double locks on my front door, to stop GOG from entering my home physically (unless I invite them, of course).
That's really the point of online, always online, online check drm, and streaming is you don't have that luxury. If they decide to switch off Gwent, there is nothing you can do. And theoretically, revoking your licence could mean they send round the police to do exactly that if they wanted, you don't "own" it anymore than you do on any other store, just makes it much harder to enforce anything.
Posted July 12, 2018
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nightcraw1er.488: And theoretically, revoking your licence could mean they send round the police to do exactly that if they wanted
I guess that would be a... farewell to games.
Posted July 12, 2018
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Enebias: I hear about this often, but never with sources.
Anyway, even assuming Valve actually stated that, games are property of publishers. Valve cannot do anything on them without precise contracts, and I seriously doubt that if Valve were to go out of business they would either have the resources or the contractual power to make such a thing happen.
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Pheace: People always seem to assume the games need to be changed if that happens (not saying it will happen) but couldn't they just put out a Steam client that doesn't require callback?
That way everyone could copy them everywhere, rendering DRM pointless. Or they could be tied to a single machine, but machines have to be changed, so sooner or later the games will be wasted.
Posted July 12, 2018
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Enebias: That way everyone could copy them everywhere, rendering DRM pointless.
Since the point is that Steam would be gone anyway that's rather moot isn't it?
Posted July 12, 2018
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kbnrylaec: I do not trust Steam, and I do not trust GOG.
If you don't trust GOG, why are you still here?
Posted July 12, 2018
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Enebias: That way everyone could copy them everywhere, rendering DRM pointless.
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Pheace: Since the point is that Steam would be gone anyway that's rather moot isn't it?
In the unlikely case of Steam going under, I don't think Valve would make its situation worse by essentially giving away IPs of other publishers (edit: without their consent). I mean: Prey is a Bethesda game, not a Steam game.
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Posted July 12, 2018
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Pheace: Since the point is that Steam would be gone anyway that's rather moot isn't it?
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Desmight: In the unlikely case of Steam going under, I don't think Valve would make its situation worse by essentially giving away IPs of other publishers (edit: without their consent). I mean: Prey is a Bethesda game, not a Steam game.
They're hardly giving it away. You either have it or you don't. If you're downloading it elsewhere it's just piracy.
Posted July 12, 2018
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nightcraw1er.488: That's really the point of online, always online, online check drm, and streaming is you don't have that luxury. If they decide to switch off Gwent, there is nothing you can do. And theoretically, revoking your licence could mean they send round the police to do exactly that if they wanted, you don't "own" it anymore than you do on any other store, just makes it much harder to enforce anything.
Maybe that is why I haven't bought Gwent. No one has.

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HunchBluntley: I'm pretty sure they're all vampires. Which means the locks are redundant.
True, but that is another thing I don't trust in them (to be vampires). Sure they can claim all they want that they are, but you never know until the fangs are in your neck.
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Posted July 12, 2018
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timppu: I trust GOG is unable to break into my home in order to alter all the GOG installers on my hard drive, to add DRM into them or make them online-only. That's why I've specifically bought double locks on my front door, to stop GOG from entering my home physically (unless I invite them, of course).
You'll never know how many sleeper agents GOG has and where they are located, ha! ; >
Posted July 13, 2018
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timppu: That's why I've specifically bought double locks on my front door, to stop GOG from entering my home physically (unless I invite them, of course).
"Knock knock, it's the DRM Freedom!"
Posted July 13, 2018
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nightcraw1er.488: That's really the point of online, always online, online check drm, and streaming is you don't have that luxury. If they decide to switch off Gwent, there is nothing you can do. And theoretically, revoking your licence could mean they send round the police to do exactly that if they wanted, you don't "own" it anymore than you do on any other store, just makes it much harder to enforce anything.
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timppu: Maybe that is why I haven't bought Gwent. No one has.
Odd, that. Several people have told me that is their biggest thing. Odd also considering the loot boxes sold for it, just another bad thing got have brought in.
Posted July 13, 2018
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Minuteworld: as much as I love gog and buy everything here, we've got too accept that bigger developers won't ever release here
If their releases are going to be Steam-only then they will need to accept I won't ever buy them.

I do not have any Steam account and I do not have any plans to have one. Period.
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